Ask Katy, October 30

[Klingoncelt]

Simon "Talks" About the Making of "The Promise"
October 30th, 2013

Hi Katy,
Please could you ask Nick, Simon or Roger what the Michael Nyman song used in the "making of The Promise" section of the Arcadia VHS was? I've got some memory of it being called "Song No. 3" or something but I've never been able to find it anywhere. Which album or soundtrack was it on?

Thanks for any help you can offer - it's been bothering me for a few years now...
Cheers,
Jon.

...............

S: Who?

K: He says Michael Nyman.

S: Who??

K: Michael Nyman.

S: Michael Nyman what?

K: Michael Nyman on "The Making of The Promise."

S: Wot?

K: "The Making of the Promise" from the Arcadia VHS. A Michael Nyman song was used in a "making of" for the video of "The Promise."

S: The what??

K: The Arcadia VHS which was then released on DVD! The one that has all the videos you guys made and behind-the-scenes footage...remember?

S: What?

K: Forget it.

S: Well, we never worked with Michael Nyman

K: (sigh)


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[duranietillrcm]

Was he just trying to be hilarious about the fact that he has little to no memory of making that DVD, or just being an ass?

[Klingoncelt]

I ran into a thread about this on Mark's board, and evidently Mr. Nyman has an album out called The Promise. It appears that the guy asking the question (Jon) got mixed up.

Would it have killed him to read the credits on the VHS?


And even the MarkUK loyals are getting annoyed with KayTee's rare and useless appearances. She could collect questions for a month, then pick the best 20, call up the boys, and get everything answered in a few minutes. All she has to do after that is type in the replies and post them, one for every weekday, a whole month's worth.

Why the fuck does she have a job with them but Andy & Warren don't?

I wish Speedbunny would come back.

[duranietillrcm]

I never did like Katy. I think she's a pompous ass. WTF is she doing for them anyway?

[Klingoncelt]

Her official title is something like "Fan-Band Liason," but basically she helps censor the official site, population 4 now. And she answers 2 questions a month and sometimes does a Katy's Kafe. And I think she weeded out the crazies at M&G contests, but now that's no longer necessary since there are only a handful of fans globally willing to spend a bunch of money for a chance at meeting the band.

[duranietillrcm]

That was their biggest mistake during the pre Astronaut tour, having people "pay" for the CHANCE of meeting DD. For the money they were charging for VIP, it should automatically come with the meet and greet. They've shot themselves in the foot with that mistake. It would have made them more appealing to the fans, and more VIP's would have been purchased. What's the big deal, so what if DD had to mingle with a bunch of fans instead of models, actors, and radio jocks before the show?

They wonder why they are having fan issues? It's THEIR fault.

[duranietillrcm]

DD posted an addendum to this on Twitter, linked back to the dd.board...

Hi Katy

I can help with the Michael Nyman question. The track used in the behind-the-scenes footage for ‘The Promise’ is Song 1 from his album “And Do They Do”/Zoo Caprices. My wife & I used it at our wedding to exit the church to & yes, we’d heard it on the Arcadia video first! (The music my wife walked up the aisle to was the instrumental passage from “Drive By”)

Stuart, New Forest



Wow.... takes a fan to straighten out the "experts".

[Klingoncelt]

Oh my green god, they used DD music for their wedding march?


My, don't I feel like such a bad fan for having used Pachelbel and Bach music.

[Klingoncelt]

But back to DD, they haven't done jack shit right since the day they sacked the Berrows brothers. They're incapable of running a business on their own, and Miss Wendy's credentials aren't exactly stellar.

[duranietillrcm]

I wonder why they parted ways in the first place?

[Klingoncelt]

I can't remember exactly what reason was given, but it basically comes down to egos, I think.

[duranietillrcm]

Found this online, not sure how accurate it is..

www.8notes.com/biographies/duran_duran.asp

Down in the 86-91 section...

Subsequently, Duran Duran's fame began to wane, as they struggled to escape the teen idol image and gain critical success with more complex (and less confident) music. Another factor was the band's dismissal of early managers the Berrow brothers. There were no public reason given, but disagreements over money, and their involvement in Le Bon's yachting adventures (they were co-owners of Drum) were suspected to play a part. Whatever the reason, Duran Duran did not have consistent management through the latter part of their career, switching managers frequently and going through periods of self-management. In addition, EMI (which fired its president and went through a major corporate restructuring that summer) seemed to have lost interest in promoting the band. Many casual fans never heard that the band had released anything after Notorious, and assumed that the band had broken up.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, I forgot about them owning Drum!

I'm not going to speculate over what they wanted for their efforts, but I do know that managers can get anywhere from 15% - 35% off the top.

The Berrows at 30% would have been better than anyone else at 15%.

[duranietillrcm]

Maybe DD wanted to make more thoughtful music (ala Simon's political lyrics) and the Berrows didn't want him to.

[Klingoncelt]

I think that was EMI's fault.

As the New Romantic thing was just starting to fade all those stupid, witless hair bands showed up with gratuitous, empty, whining ballads. The record companies didn't want anything that wasn't shallow.